21/09/21 Faux Fulda
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Re: 21/09/21 Faux Fulda
Alan, I'll add one in but will need to see your covid status before bringing out the ladder.
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Re: 21/09/21 Faux Fulda
Well spotted Danny, thank you.
I shall change them tonight.
I shall change them tonight.
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Re: 21/09/21 Faux Fulda
I am confused. The miz I returned had us as Pontiac 1-8. On the check miz, we are now Springfield and Dodge. I never picked up that you were changing our callsigns. The latest FRAG as us as Pontiac. What are our correct callsigns? The brief I published also showed us as Pontiac 1-8.
I will change all the waypoints. Do you want me to send you another miz, or post my changes here?
How was the request to change T/O time communicated to you? I never saw a request on this forum.
I will change all the waypoints. Do you want me to send you another miz, or post my changes here?
How was the request to change T/O time communicated to you? I never saw a request on this forum.
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Flt Lt Geoff Mansfield RAF Air UK
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Re: 21/09/21 Faux Fulda
Hi Geoff,
I believe you should be Pontiac. I have not changed you to Boar or Hawg, on mine you are still down as Pontiac 1-8. However, this is why I send the check miz out so each squadron can check their flight, and you know I am always happy to change anything.
I'm not sure why you need to do the waypoints again? I have adjusted the start positions of the tanks moving them back ten minutes so your TOT's should work.
The start time was changed after a PM with a returned miz. I try to help where I can and I considered my actions appropriate and I hoped it wouldn't affect anyone's mission.
I believe you should be Pontiac. I have not changed you to Boar or Hawg, on mine you are still down as Pontiac 1-8. However, this is why I send the check miz out so each squadron can check their flight, and you know I am always happy to change anything.
I'm not sure why you need to do the waypoints again? I have adjusted the start positions of the tanks moving them back ten minutes so your TOT's should work.
The start time was changed after a PM with a returned miz. I try to help where I can and I considered my actions appropriate and I hoped it wouldn't affect anyone's mission.
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Re: 21/09/21 Faux Fulda
I downloaded the check miz that i posted this morning , you are definitely Pontiac 1-8.
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Re: 21/09/21 Faux Fulda
Andrew,
We need very accurate WPs to hit an accurate TOT. If our SPI for weapon release is not at the WP, then our TOT will be off. It's easy when your TOT targets are stationary, like airfields or compounds. Our TOT targets are on the move.
You have assumed all the tanks are moving at a constant speed. That is not the case. All the tanks start at 0mph. The lead tank starts moving at 6mph, whilst others in the platoon are stationary, waiting to move into single file.
In conclusion your modified WPs are inaccurate, especially for the tanks.
Testing you check miz, my Pontiac 1 aircraft was springfield. The other flight was Dodge.
Do you want me to send an updated miz.
We need very accurate WPs to hit an accurate TOT. If our SPI for weapon release is not at the WP, then our TOT will be off. It's easy when your TOT targets are stationary, like airfields or compounds. Our TOT targets are on the move.
You have assumed all the tanks are moving at a constant speed. That is not the case. All the tanks start at 0mph. The lead tank starts moving at 6mph, whilst others in the platoon are stationary, waiting to move into single file.
In conclusion your modified WPs are inaccurate, especially for the tanks.
Testing you check miz, my Pontiac 1 aircraft was springfield. The other flight was Dodge.
Do you want me to send an updated miz.
Flt Lt Geoff Mansfield RAF Air UK
Re: 21/09/21 Faux Fulda
Andrew,
Look closely at your image. The callsign is Springfield 1-2 for Pontiac 2-1.
Clicking on the aircraft you selected, this is what I sent you. It should be Pontiac 2, callsign Pontiac 1-2. See image below.
Is this an issue with melding two miz files together|?
Look closely at your image. The callsign is Springfield 1-2 for Pontiac 2-1.
Clicking on the aircraft you selected, this is what I sent you. It should be Pontiac 2, callsign Pontiac 1-2. See image below.
Is this an issue with melding two miz files together|?
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Re: 21/09/21 Faux Fulda
You're absolutely right, I've been looking at the wrong box!
I'm not sure what's happened there but I'll need to go back and check them all.
97 will be Pontiac 1-8.
When I referred to boar and Hawg that was a previous mission and I had said to Alan that going forward in new missions 97 would be Boar and Hawg. The next mission we'll do that but tomorrow we'll stay as Pontiac.
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Re: 21/09/21 Faux Fulda
Melding miz files does seem to make changes, for instance heights are all wrong on waypoints and I change these manually, something else may have been introduced to cause these callsign problems.
All I do is copy and paste the flights, so now we'll need to check the callsigns too.
All I do is copy and paste the flights, so now we'll need to check the callsigns too.
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Re: 21/09/21 Faux Fulda
Geoff 97 are now Pontiac 1-1, 1-2, 1-3, 1-4 and Pontiac 2-1, 2-2, 2-3, 2-4.
And they were definitely changed in the copy and paste action.
And they were definitely changed in the copy and paste action.
0405 ANDREW
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